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Post by akanundrum on Aug 28, 2015 12:49:02 GMT -8
Are gender roles a thing of the past thats no longer required for relationships, or something we should have never thrown away?
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Post by awakewhileusleep on Aug 29, 2015 0:02:59 GMT -8
we need gender roles to stay traditional.. not taking anything away from strong black women that can do things independently, but i feel that if roles reverse it can do damage to the male psyche, emasculating them and thats just the start of the social breakdown.. before i get too deep i'll just sum it up by saying men need to be men. (the color scheme and gender symbols in the image say everything im trying to say)
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Post by Nei on Aug 29, 2015 22:07:18 GMT -8
I like gender roles...to a degree. That doesn't mean I don't want to do certain things or that I think he shouldn't do certain things. I just feel like things roll a bit smoother when "rolws" are established.
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Post by ShyaDee on Aug 30, 2015 6:19:08 GMT -8
I don't think gender roles are completely antiquated. I do think that there is a shift in how they are perceived at times. But idk too many women who doesn't want a "Man/King" to lead ! Being that he has shown himself capable of doing so. I personally consider myself to be a pretty strong young woman. & there's a lot that I can do for myself when it comes to things that men should do & not woman. But in this day & age regardless of how strong of a woman we can be think that just means we probably desire a man even more to be able to do those things we've learned to do our selves along the way. If the right man came along I'd be more than willing to make him feel as if he was in lead. But that doesn't mean that it puts me in a "second" in command position. Just means I realize I'm dealing with someone who's showed himself worthy & the things I've learned along the way before him just adds to what "we" can build together. Pretty sure their our households out there that play their strengths & that might mean that the opposite sex (woman) is the bread winner & the husband or spouse might take good care of the house. But I do believe a woman is supposed to make a man feel like so. Regardless of the system they have behind closed doors. Both parties just have to be confident in their system I guess.
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Post by ladytee on Sept 3, 2015 15:36:34 GMT -8
I appreciate gender rolls. Yes! Let me come across a man who takes pride in being the provider and protector of his family! I will gladly submit and be homemaker. I would love to make our house into a home, make sure our kids are brought up well, and he has a hot meal to come home to. Its unfortunate though, it is harder to implement these roles nowadays. With the cost of living increasing beyond reasonable measures, a household needs two incomes to keep above water. When both parents are working, that leaves a lot of time our children are in someone else hands, which isn't always such a good thing. With crime rates increasing, and our brothers and sisters being killed every time you blink an eye, it leaves many homes with a single parent. That parent then has to overcompensate for the missing parent, which in my experience, hardens them. Oh, and don't get me started on the media, and the horrible influence it has on our community. I am a little old fashioned, I would gladly take the gender roles back over the complicated mess I have dealt with in my adult years.
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Post by rayjefury on Sept 3, 2015 20:03:31 GMT -8
I don't think gender roles are outdated, but I think they make for easy targets for people looking for something to blame on the break down on the dynamics between men and women. To be certain, I don't think that they are necessarily the "end all be all" to every relationship. If there are couples who can function better without observing traditional gender roles I'm fine with it. In the end, they will still be fulfilling roles; I haven't seen a compelling argument as to why those roles should be objectionable if they happen to also align to tradition. What I have found is people are rarely against traditional gender roles on a whole, they're against the traditional gender roles they don't like. They cherry pick when to be for and against gender roles, vocalizing opposition when they don't like it, and turning a blind eye when it benefits them.
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Post by darlingnikkih on Sept 5, 2015 9:26:24 GMT -8
I think they are needed. Don't get me wrong, they aren't set in stone! But I enjoy cooking, cleaning and rasing our kids. But I also enjoy working on cars, putting up drywall, and getting my hands dirty. My husband cooks gourmet meals when he wants to and helps the kids with their homework when he gets off early. I just think that if the roles weren't so blended nowadays men wouldn't be so against commitment be chase they could rely on a women to support him and women wouldn't feel the nees to be so scandalous because they could depend on their man.(not all but some)
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Post by brenay on Sept 5, 2015 14:25:40 GMT -8
When it comes to gender roles we have to acknowledge the fact that one cannot grow if there's no where to be prosperous, what I mean by that is yes many are looking at the fact females should act like ladies,and males should act like gentlemen,though this also undermines the advancement of each gender such as the fact it's more acceptable for females to take charge and handle leadership positions not only at ho.e every once in a while but also in the work life which as blacks is considered an achievement but should be the norm. As well as the fact that men can acceptably be house husbands and stay at home and take care of the children this not only enforces great father bonding many children need desire and crave but causes development to increase... Gender roles are ok placemats but we do need to expand from them to discontinue stereotypes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 12:28:32 GMT -8
we need gender roles to stay traditional.. not taking anything away from strong black women that can do things independently, but i feel that if roles reverse it can do damage to the male psyche, emasculating them and thats just the start of the social breakdown.. before i get too deep i'll just sum it up by saying men need to be men. (the color scheme and gender symbols in the image say everything im trying to say) I agree wholeheartedly awakewhileusleep.
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Post by rayjefury on Sept 16, 2015 14:32:09 GMT -8
When it comes to gender roles we have to acknowledge the fact that one cannot grow if there's no where to be prosperous, what I mean by that is yes many are looking at the fact females should act like ladies,and males should act like gentlemen,though this also undermines the advancement of each gender such as the fact it's more acceptable for females to take charge and handle leadership positions not only at ho.e every once in a while but also in the work life which as blacks is considered an achievement but should be the norm. As well as the fact that men can acceptably be house husbands and stay at home and take care of the children this not only enforces great father bonding many children need desire and crave but causes development to increase... Gender roles are ok placemats but we do need to expand from them to discontinue stereotypes. I'm not sure that there is any ground swell of support (among men or women) for house husbands. Honestly it strikes me as one of those things that sounds good in theory and on paper, but not something we'll actually embrace; especially if elements in both camps continue to suggest that home making is de facto subservience. It's not progress to take women out of oppression and put men in their stead... and again this is based on the premise that home making is considered a negative. Also I think we have to make a distinction between fighting for growth in the work place and world, and growth in the home. Different goals, allies, and participants... different strategies. How one seeks to improve the work environment and the world isn't necessarily going to be applicable in the home. The environment necessary to be successful at work is going to be different than the environment necessary for success in relationship. Just some food for thought.
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Post by carl on Sept 16, 2015 19:01:59 GMT -8
I understand and respect everyone's views on gender roles but I feel as if it is bigger then that. In ancient times women played jus as big roles in everything. Actually us men are only a few chromosomes short from being a woman. They are they key to life. Really they are the first once a man gets into the mindset of dominating his woman that is when he loses. Physically we are stronger but on the spiritual realm they are the key. It's been time out for I go out with the fellas and my woman stay home and watch the kids cook and clean. It's suppose to be wherever I go my woman go and we move as one. There shouldn't be a men's only meeting a women's only meeting we all need each other to have both sides of the polarity. The soul consist of masculine and feminine energy period so because our physical representation is a man or a woman does not mean that we should have to adjust to this European way if thinking. Y'all black woman so damn strong y'all don't need no damn protector or provider that's not a bad thing. All y'all need is a good man to do right by y'all and hold y'all down exactly what we men need period. We are one and we and until we start moving as one we won't win together.
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Post by sistaallie on Oct 1, 2015 13:18:51 GMT -8
Gender roles are not only outdated, but unnecessary. In fact, they aren't even natural. When you study history , you understand that these "gender roles" are not something that is natural for the human race. The first humans were hunters and gathers in. These small communities were egalitarian. In fact, these roles weren't introduced until agriculture and economics became a factor, because men held more 'value' due to their strength and ability to better work the farms.Consequently the women were made to take care of the other chores.This gender-based division of labour then gave rise to a culture which solidified women's place as being in the home. I'll inculde a quick timeline on humans and interaction between the genders that may provide more detail: markmanson.net/male-female-relations If you'd prefer scientific studies over historical facts here's one of many studies that look at gender roles: isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic891792.files/Nunn%20Plough_11.04.25.pdfBasically, it is not just a man's job to take out the trash, fix the car, or even cut the grass. Nor is it just a woman's job to submit, cook, clean, and take care of the children. Both parties are EQUALLY responsible for taking care things.
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