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Post by luce on Aug 18, 2015 16:38:43 GMT -8
How does a black man, love his mother but denounce black women for dating or refuses to marry a black woman?
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Post by bellex on Aug 24, 2015 14:00:40 GMT -8
I asked a black man this today that is well known to only date women that is not black and he responded, " Black women are just jealous of white women" MY RESPONSE: (Well first I had to collect my emotions) "As a black woman, I AM NOT JEALOUS of a white women - point-blank-period. There is an irritation, a dissatisfaction, there is a resentment, that I feel because we as black women are being rejected by our own group!
There is much fixing and much knowledge to be spread on black family unity and the beauty of BLACK LOVE.
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Post by akanundrum on Aug 24, 2015 14:39:40 GMT -8
It makes me wonder if some single Black women have become TOO overbearing while trying to overcompensate for the lack of a male presence, thus making many of their sons very resentful. Since it's taboo in our culture to speak against your mother, regardless of how ill she treated you, I think it carries over to a disdain of Black women...especially a strong a boisterous one. This is topic worthy!
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Post by Nei on Aug 24, 2015 15:17:30 GMT -8
I was involved in a similar discussion a few weeks ago and the general consensus was that a lot black women don't know how to turn down the "strong" and allow her man to be a man. According to them many of us are too strong, too demanding, have high expectations, and are unwilling to bend.
Of course this cause a huge argument, but hey....
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Post by msredninjaturtle on Aug 24, 2015 15:48:59 GMT -8
That is definitely something to take in consideration akanundrum1 when trying to figure out this black men not wanting a black women situation, but even if these men had an overbearing mother, they could of had a docile grandma, or a sweet funny aunt who was always there to uplift him. So what I'm saying is I don't think in all cases it's the mama. I don't know what makes a black man not want a black woman, but it definitely makes me emotional.
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Post by jayscott on Aug 24, 2015 16:01:01 GMT -8
I can see all of these things being an issue, being too "strong", and overbearing mothers being an issue for black men. Like if a man has a mother that doesn't necessarily build his self esteem up and self confidence, I could see how that could affect him down the road in his dealings, even casually with other black women.
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Post by luce on Aug 24, 2015 16:48:31 GMT -8
akanundrum1 Very interesting take and very plausible. A man's relationship with women is strongly associated to his relationship with his mother.
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Post by h82lose on Aug 25, 2015 0:45:12 GMT -8
As a black man, I think that I'm going to date outside of my race. I've only dated black women. The ones I've come in contact with, haven't shown me the love I needed to feel.
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Post by sinceremr718 on Aug 25, 2015 4:37:44 GMT -8
As a black man, I think that I'm going to date outside of my race. I've only dated black women. The ones I've come in contact with, haven't shown me the love I needed to feel. I don't know you or the ppl who you dated, but maybe the ones you ran across happened to not be right for you or you didnt make them feel like they NEEDED to love you the way you feel you needed to be loved. In my experience a woman will reciprocate the love she receives from a strong black man. Any woman thats not in my life I can honestly say its because at the time I didnt handle the relationship properly & NOT because she was a black woman who didnt love me the 'right way'. Dont give up on black women yet bruh. They have so much to offer. Theres a reason why it is said The Black Woman is God...
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Post by jayscott on Aug 25, 2015 11:33:59 GMT -8
As a black man, I think that I'm going to date outside of my race. I've only dated black women. The ones I've come in contact with, haven't shown me the love I needed to feel. So umm....What was missing? If you don't mind me asking. Just curious.....
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Post by amirinyahya on Aug 26, 2015 20:42:57 GMT -8
h82lose Where ever you go, you take YOU with you. A person will always reflect back to you what you are giving them. We just covered in our eCourse that MOST times when people feel like you do about relationships it's because they're not speaking the other person's love language either. Usually we love people in our own love language hoping they'll reciprocate it - we never take time to learn how they want to be loved. In return, they love us in THEIR love language and everyone feels unfulfilled. It's about learning the other person and COMMUNICATING our needs to them.
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Post by lexxrey on Aug 26, 2015 22:57:09 GMT -8
h82lose Where ever you go, you take YOU with you. A person will always reflect back to you what you are giving them. We just covered in our eCourse that MOST times when people feel like you do about relationships it's because they're not speaking the other person's love language either. Usually we love people in our own love language hoping they'll reciprocate it - we never take time to learn how they want to be loved. In return, they love us in THEIR love language and everyone feels unfulfilled. It's about learning the other person and COMMUNICATING our needs to them. Can I get your perspective on when you should "teach someone how to love" and when you should accept that people are who they are. I think it's common to want to change someone or you fall in love with their potential which can be a mistake. I feel like the wiser I've become I have to see people for who they are and accept that vs. how they could be. I believe now I would see someone that lacked the qualities i need them to have to love me the way I wanted as more of a red flag than a teachable moment. How can you determine when you should invest in teaching someone who doesn't speak your "love language" naturally?
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Post by akanundrum on Aug 27, 2015 5:15:47 GMT -8
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Post by manny on Sept 6, 2015 20:50:25 GMT -8
This is an interesting topic because I'm currently co parenting with a woman within the Asian ethnic group and this question came to me before. Growing up, my mother was drug addicted. Although she made end meet, I was traumatized by the things she did. Until this day, I'm not sure if I'm the only one out of my siblings that witnessed her using or engaging in acts with her temporary guy "friends" but I know for sure it may have taken the largest toll on me..
My father married my mother's cousin. And she was, to me, the wicked witch of the west. Tortured me n favored my brother (as everyone else in my family did). And every other woman in my family bad mouthed me because I had no respect for them. Ever. Even as a baby only 5 yrs I was mocked and told I would be dead before I reached 14. And I knew it sounds insane but it's actually true. All of that, I believe played a huge role in me dating outside if my race. And I would do almost anything to protect my black woman. My own mother, I feel, never protected me and neither did any other woman of color. Who's to say any other black woman would? I may be young but it shouldn't be that hard to find one.. I needed and still long for the protection of my black woman. But, it hasn't happened yet. Can't necessarily say this applies to every black man but it surely applies to me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 22:23:39 GMT -8
I think so akanundrum1. And the truth of the matter is that black men in their right mind want peace when they come home/ in their relationships. They don't wanna fight with their woman after fighting with the world. All that bickering and contentiousness and NAGGING that is a byproduct of our women muscling so much work and responsibility and causes some of our men not to wanna deal with us. And for that, i don't blame em. Even the bible talks about a nagging and contentious woman that it's better to sleep on the rooftop or be in the desert than dwell in a wide house with her. (Proverbs 21:9, Proverbs 25:24) The most attractive women are those with a peaceable spirit, who can relax, are joyous, supportive and uplifting in their words and deeds. And until we return to that natural state of ours we will continue to push some of our men away. To heal we gotta own up to the part we played in the situation and tell the truth so we can get back to the good stuff. That good lovin!
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